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27 Apr 2004
What kind of attack on Mr. Debs is this, Mr.
Younes.
whether he spent the last 30 years in Beirut or not. what are you doing in the states.
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27 Apr 2004
Not a good reason Mr. Charara. we admire your entries and your skills but I respect your position. but I am not convinced that this is the real truth. no problem.
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27 Apr 2004
First, I want to thank each and every one of you for participating on this web site. I see a lot of passion flying around, and that only reflects your love and caring for our town Machghara. To answer your question, Why haven’t I been writing lately on this web site??? There is a very simple answer, and those who are in touch with me know it very well, I have been extremely busy for the last year building a new home, coupled with a couple of businesses, along with 30 tenants and a new born “fifth child” not to neglect the other 4 children and my better half (wife), I simply haven’t had much time for anything else. Moreover, for a while there was nothing new on the site and I wanted to give the chance to the “younger” crowd to express their thoughts and opinions. I was somewhat amazed and glad to see so many postings recently but yet saddened that we have to hide behind our words without revealing who we are. We must not be afraid of one another, regardless of how different our opinions may be. As for the elections, I am glad that finally we will have some administration to take care of the business of the town. I have to take my hat off for all those participants “mourasha7een” for their dedication and courage, let us remember that these are non-paying jobs and require much dedication and effort to accomplish. Some of names mentioned I recognized but many others while they sound familiar I don’t believe that I had the privilege of knowing them. Of course I know Mr. Jawdat Ibrahim to be an honorable man and a person who spent much of the last 20 years working for the remaining citizens of Machghara, I also know that Mr. George Debs is a fine attorney from Machghara whom have served and extended a helping hand to all of those who sought his help in the last 20 years. For us who live abroad, we should refrain from accusations and condemnation of any candidate. First we are not voting and secondly only time will tell how the winner performs. The next election the citizens can re-elect or replace.
Thank you for reading.
Joseph Charara ohiousaman@aol.com
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27 Apr 2004
Dear Mr. George Debs
With our respect to your name we believe you should give us some Answers to
these questions:
How do you accept this position while you never been to Machghara for the last
(30) thirty years ?????? and you don't really know anything about the needs of
our village, or is it a pressure by Beirut's creation Machghara's Community (The
Packagers Group) sorry to be tuff on you, don't take it personally. We
Machgaranians fought for our freedom, belief, and we had experienced in the past
with Amine Mansour, he Lived in Beirut and he was the Vice President of our
municipality, and every signature we need we have to go to Beirut to get it...
and with the love to the other members of your list some of them we know very
well especially the political members. I have to ask them what each of their
parties did for Machghara ??
The answer is fighting each other by machine guns, killing each other on our
streets.
So it is the time my fellow Machgharani to say NO to any person who wants to
play with our kids future, it is the time to stand for the sake of our village.
For the last 31 years we never had chance to say what we want to say, our town
needs lots of work, start form the street to the foundation of the sewer, and
water to the land which owned by the municipality which fewer people building
on, the time came to clean up this town, and refuse any pre-packed Beirutian to
run our village.
we have to say Yes to the person who stand up in his position for the last 31
years by himself in our municipality building, solved every problem in the
village occurred from 1973 to four years ago, when the county office in
Jebjannin took the responsibility to run our municipality office, they took over
with big time money and now they are returning the office with 0 money left.....
and here is our village to re-build. we want to vote to MR. JAWDAT IBRAHIM
because we know him, he's willing to work in our village, YES we want to vote
for MR. YOUSSEF YOUNES because we saw what he did in our lovely Machghara from
roads in (El harika) to Medical Center in the heart of Machghara where their was
nothing except very old broken house on that lot, and Hammoud Center, Ahmed
Villa, and Mahfouz villa on the main North entrance of Machghara, to the
Subdivision on the "nabi noun" Road. We want to say YES to Mr. Mahfouz Mahfouz
Here is why From 1975 the first one to bring medicine to the sick and to
the older people, the first one to open free clinic in our town, to 1982 ask
who clean up the dead bodies from our streets and mountains to bury them while
they have ammo and grenades in their hands.
We want to say YES to every person in the Karameh List because they have history
of working with the public, a history of rebuilding, and they have the plan for
the future to rebuild our lovely Machghara.
This is what the people of the Karameh List did in our town for the last 20
years but Mr.Debs what did you do for our town and where were you?
Ali Mohamed Younes, Toledo, Ohio
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27 Apr 2004
على أثر تهميش العائلات الكبرى في مشغرة من قبل بعض الأفراد الذين ضربوا بالوفاق عرض الحائط في تشكيلهم لائحة سُميّت بلائحة الوفاق والانصهار الوطني ، قرر الأستاذ يوسف محمد يونس والسيد جودت قيصر إبراهيم إعادة الكرامة إلى أبناء مشغرة عبر تشكيلهما للائحة الكرامة ؛ وهي مؤلفة من :ا
السيد جودت قيصر إبراهيم - رئيسا
الأستاذ يوسف محمد يونس - نائب رئيس
والأعضاء وهم :ا
السيد محفوظ محفوظ
السيّد عامر علي غزالي
الدكتور محمّد يوسف سرحال
الدكتور علي كامل شرف
السيد خليل رزق
السيد محمّد كامل العمّار
الحاج علي خليل زَينه
الحاج علي محمّد سرحال
السيد يوسف بجيجي
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27 Apr 2004
Mr. Charara
you know better than that. why have you stopped writing on this website?. you
and I have had some decent conversations about Machghara. I can respect your
position, but be honest please about the future of Machghara in your writing.
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27 Apr 2004
The freedom of expression does not exist in Lebanon and especially in machghara. You see, we muslims and Christians left machghara for a reason. Something was called the freedom of expression. You see you can’t have a society without the freedom of expression. I learned that in my social course at Ottawa univerty. This is a very important principle and essential to creating a just and fair society in machghara. Since there are no democracies in the entire Mideast arabe countries, what is wrong with you people. You will find that in machghara. People follow religion too much. Look what is happening in Irak. Look at Iran is struggling towards some sort of democratic system, but so far not very successfully. Where Eygept, Algeria, Saoudiye, the worst offender when it comes to human rights, Jordan, Yamen, turkey, Pakistan, whre, tell me can someone tell me if I am wrong about those countires. And for you ali younis, how important for you to have a name. the name is not important. If you write or have something intelligent to say like me respond.
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27 Apr 2004
Ya people. Welo. Wake up. How can you have fair elections when you have Hizballah, Al Qoumei Souri, Katayeb, Amal, and all this g....... and people from all sides running after those fanatic leaders. I told you, eliminate those people from power and then start talking sense. By the way, I think we should seek the support of the "Sourryeen" in Machghara. Why not, they decide for us. Do you not agree. They are living in our houses are they not?.
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27 Apr 2004
Dear Machgaranies on Behalf of Karameh List we really appreciate all of
support but we like to ask each one of you with respect to this website please
insert you name on each comments you make or if you are a shamed of what you are
writing please keep it to your self, and any other subject we are open to
discuss it some other time, for any other Families not represented in our list
we really are open.
Thanks For All OF You, Ali Younes
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27 Apr 2004
أين الوفاق والانصهار الوطني. ألا يحق للمسلمين أن يكون لهم مختار في الحارة الفوقا والمسحيين في الحارة التحتا أو الخوف من عدم تأمين التوازن الطائفي عند الاثنين, فتم فرض هؤلاء . أين الارتياح عند جميع أقطاب المجتمع المشغري لهذا الوفاق
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27 Apr 2004
euuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuff. People of Machghara wake up.
10nx god there are elections so we meet new faces of Machghara.3anjad wlo. with
my respect to Mr. El Debs and his supporters, but can we be this ingrate and
clap our hands to those who know their "beloved" village just on occasions. enno
what do we think we are idiots? stupids? no i guess fools. enno actually i only
met georges el debs yesterday on TV, and they claim this list is up to all
citizens views. i have one question those 22 and above rn't they supposed to be
citizens too? so did anyone asked us what do we want? no need eh. it would be
better if u didn't show up and say unanimous list. sorry i forgot u like to show
up.
People, i just don't know the architect neither, but i certainly have heard of
Mr Jawdat like anyone of u. whether u love him or not. it is matter of loyalty.
if u know the meaning of this word u would know that he is the one. cus he stood
since ever and joined all parties and views. he is one of those who keep to
their word. i m not launching a campaign here i m just revealing to ur blind
eyes and deaf ears a reality others r trying to hide. ya zalame how could they
say they love their village, they love keep smiling while having photographs.
and the worst are those who daily have a stand. wlo 3ayb walaw where is honesty.
who s gonna believe u later?
people 4 once we can vote freely (hopefully) so may the dignity and loyalty
rule. may ur mouths speak while ears and eyes are open.
i think if u think 4 the welfare of ur village u wont have a doubt in choosing
the right persons.
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27 Apr 2004
على أثر تهميش العائلات الكبرى في مشغرة من قبل بعض الأفراد الذين ضربوا بالوفاق عرض الحائط في تشكيلهم لائحة سُميّت بلائحة الوفاق والانصهار الوطني ، قرر الأستاذ يوسف محمد يونس والسيد جودت قيصر إبراهيم إعادة الكرامة إلى أبناء مشغرة عبر تشكيلهما للائحة الكرامة ؛ وهي مؤلفة من :ا
السيد جودت قيصر إبراهيم - رئيسا
الأستاذ يوسف محمد يونس - نائب رئيس
والأعضاء وهم :ا
السيد محفوظ محفوظ
السيّد عامر علي غزالي
الدكتور محمّد يوسف سرحال
الدكتور علي كامل شرف
السيد خليل رزق
السيد محمّد كامل العمّار
الحاج علي خليل زَينه
الحاج علي محمّد سرحال
السيد يوسف بجيجي
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27 Apr 2004
Vote for Mr. Jawdat Ibrahim and Mr. Youssef Younes!
They will bring us a better Machghara!
Hassen Younes, USA
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27 Apr 2004
To everyone in Machghara...vote for Mr. Jawdat Ibrahim and (my uncle) Youssef Younes!!
they are both honest men and have worked hard in their lives for the families
and their town!!
Mohamad Younes USA
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27 Apr 2004
Dear Machgharanians, it's the first time since many years we have the chance to vote and decide who is going to take care of our village. We all want the best for Machghara because we love it and live in it. Don't make these elections a reason to create fights between each others. Remember that you will have
responsibilities to achieve and it is not a game of position or show off.
Dear machgharanians, it is your turn to decide and choose. I'm sure that most of you will vote for KARAMEH for the best of our village.
You have faith, you have plans, you have karameh!
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27 Apr 2004
who cares even if you vote for " Darrab el tabal"
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27 Apr 2004
to everybody in Machghara..
pls vote to Jawdet Ibrahim & Eli Karam
Thanks
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27 Apr 2004
this is for Ibrahim Mohsen Hammoud.
Do you want to know why there is hatred in Machghara. Let us explore the
question you and I my friend.
God described to Adam and Eve the consequences of their sin. He started by
addressing Satan, the one who persuaded them to disobey His instructions, saying
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her
seed. So what do you expect in Machghara.
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27 Apr 2004
VOTE TO Mr.Jawdat Ibrahim & Mr. YOUSSEF YOUNES.......
Good Luck Karameh List.
Hussien Ali Younes, Ohio
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27 Apr 2004
Our Votes For ........... The Independent Karameh List ................In USA
From Mohammed Ali Younes, Toledo,Ohio
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27 Apr 2004
VOTE TO Mr. Jawdat Ibrahim & Mr. YOUSSEF YOUNES
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27 Apr 2004
رغم كل التشويش, ما زال السيد فهد قيصر إبراهيم مستمر بترشيحه للمقعد الإختياري في مشغرة التحتا.. .جورج فهد إبراهيم
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27 Apr 2004
Vote to the Independant Karameh List...
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27 Apr 2004
VOTE TO Mr. Jawdat Ibrahim & Mr. YOUSSEF YOUNES
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27 Apr 2004
على أثر تهميش العائلات الكبرى في مشغرة من قبل بعض الأفراد الذين ضربوا بالوفاق عرض الحائط في تشكيلهم لائحة سُميّت بلائحة الوفاق والانصهار الوطني ، قرر الأستاذ يوسف محمد يونس والسيد جودت قيصر إبراهيم إعادة الكرامة إلى أبناء مشغرة عبر تشكيلهما للائحة الكرامة ؛ وهي مؤلفة من : السيد جودت قيصر إبراهيم -رئيساً , الأستاذ يوسف محمد يونس -نائب رئيس , والأعضاء وهم : السيد محفوظ محفوظ, السيّد عامر علي غزالي, الدكتور محمّد يوسف سرحال, الدكتور علي كامل شرف, السيد خليل رزق,السيد محمّد كامل العمّار, الحاج علي خليل زَينه, الحاج علي محمّد سرحال, السيد يوسف بجيجي
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27 Apr 2004
رغم كل التشويش , ما زال السيد فهد قيصر إبراهيم مستمر بترشيحه للمقعد الإختياري في مشغرة التحتا
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27 Apr 2004
أين الوفاق والانصهار الوطني. ألا يحق للمسلمين أن يكون لهم مختار في الحارة الفوقا والمسحيين في الحارة التحتا أو الخوف من عدم تأمين التوازن الطائفي عند الاثنين, فتم فرض هؤلاء . أين الارتياح عند جميع أقطاب المجتمع المشغري لهذا الوفاق
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27 Apr 2004
je pense que George et Hassan et Jeremy et tous ces idiots qui vivent
actuellement là-bas, sont en train de perdre leur temps pour la question du
machghara. Nous n'avons fait rien dans vingt ans pourquoi commencez maintenant?.
Venez voir et prendre l'exemple de la France, aucune question de relegion a lieu
n'importe ou. Mais je voudrais voir davantage la moquerie de cette election de
loin.
la France le meilleur pays de porn.
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27 Apr 2004
على أثر تهميش العائلات الكبرى في مشغرة من قبل بعض الأفراد الذين ضربوا بالوفاق عرض الحائط في تشكيلهم لائحة سُميّت بلائحة الوفاق والانصهار الوطني ، قرر الأستاذ يوسف محمد يونس والسيد جودت قيصر إبراهيم إعادة الكرامة إلى أبناء مشغرة عبر تشكيلهما للائحة الكرامة ؛ وهي مؤلفة من : السيد جودت قيصر إبراهيم -رئيساً , الأستاذ يوسف محمد يونس -نائب رئيس , والأعضاء وهم : السيد محفوظ محفوظ, السيّد عامر علي غزالي, الدكتور محمّد يوسف سرحال, الدكتور علي كامل شرف, السيد خليل رزق,السيد محمّد كامل العمّار, الحاج علي خليل زَينه, الحاج علي محمّد سرحال, السيد يوسف بجيجي
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27 Apr 2004
أين مجلس بلدي يراعي حقوق جميع الأطراف، عن طريق وضع معيار النزاهة والكفاءة والكف النظيف، عند اختيار الأعضاء، أين وجهات النظر في لائحةالأحزاب, لائحةالوفاق والانصهار الوطني
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27 Apr 2004
Machghara yesterday, today and tomorrow......
Yesterday was the past, a fact but not desired...
A reality, painful but memories remembered...
Memories cherished, some painful but mostly adored and some locked away....
Let us Learn and grow from them, they brought us to the present and far away...
Today is the present...
I awoke with a feeling of peace
I awoke with a smile in my eyes
And now I want to share this peace with you
Live each day for you and remember to dream
Live each day, learn to feel safe and secure again
Live life and walk towards the future
Tomorrow is the future...
Your dreams, fantasies and realities are one
It is an unknown path you face every tomorrow
Your choices make your tomorrow
As they did yesterday
You turn your dreams into reality and wipe away the sorrow
At this moment...
Machghara today, harsh but yet soft, wants you to achieve your goal
Machghara, after the snow, full of warmth to hold you close to her heart
My heart tells me from “harit alfawka la harit altahta” about our common soul
My heart, full of passion and love, ready to forgive and forget...
In time...The past will be healed, loyalty and trust will flourish again
Machghara will be filled with laughter, happiness and love again
The future will be discovered not alone and dreams shared again
Grow young with your chosen one, life will begin with every sunrise again and
again
Sad eyes, blue like the lake, and happy like no other
A smile, crying to explode into laughter
Hugs, full of warmth and healing treasured forever
Machghara Forever, a bond always tested but never broken
Machghara Forever, a connection built with love but still unspoken
Machghara Forever, not always together but connected and unshaken
Always - loved, cherished and adored by me
Always - You showed me the meaning of self respect and dignity
Always - You are a "gift" to be treasured until eternity
Always- with me when I close my eyes
Always- with you when I open my eyes...
Always- together forever, and until forever I close my eyes....
JOSEPH CHARARA ohiousaman@aol.com
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27 Apr 2004
I am not the type who is known for repeating himself, but 2 years ago I
wrote and posted the following poem on this very web site. After reading some
of the posts I think the time has come to post it again. For those who hate
this town so much and love to cloud the issues and talk about "scandals,
corruptions, ect..." .
Well... This is our town Machghara and she has a big heart, capable of loving
even those who hates her. Machghara welcomes you to come back and see for
yourself. But to find Love you must rid your heart of hate first, Machghara is
waiting with big open arms to embrace all of those who left and lived abroad,
whether like "dogs and cats, or became princes and princesses" Machghara is
still proud of all of her sons and daughters and loves them the same regardless
of their failures or accomplishments.
Joseph Charara ohiousaman@aol.com
here is the old poem, in the next post and thank you for reading.
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27 Apr 2004
Dear Machgharanis,
Please let us respect and value our differences. I try always to believe that
it is important to talk openly about even the most controversial and awkward
subjects so that as we learn to understand one another we can also learn to
respect our differences and even value them. I hope that I contribute to the
development of an environment where people in Machghara can respect one another.
No two people in the world are exactly alike. All people, even I disagree with
my twins brother, but we agree to accept and respect our differences or views on
issues in life for example. Do you have to agree with people to respect their
right to have an opinion? No. But people with differing views and opinions can
respect each other's right to differ. I think the election process in Machghara
is important .let us keep an open mind, let us be informed about what is
happening and find out how we can contribute. If you like to play music or
write, you might try using those skills to express and share your feelings, but
please do not attempt to place disgusting language and ideas that lead us no
where. Everyone has something to offer, even if it's something unexpected, like
a new idea or a new way of looking at something, there is nothing that prevents
you from writing, but please remember if you are from Machghara, please remember
how can a society of Machghara benefit from your words if they are of poisonous
nature.
Hassan Hajjar
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27 Apr 2004
تحيّة مشغرانيّة وبعد،
إنّ التّعبيرعمّا يلوجُ في فكرك أيّها الإنسان هي ميزة أساسيّة قدّمها لك الخالق، ممّا جعلك أسمى الكائنات الموجودة في الكون..فاستفد يا إنسان من هذه النعمة كي تستطيع التمييز في ما هو خير وشر، وفي ما هو أولوي وثانوي؛ وفي ما هو نافعٌ لك وضار لغيرك، أو ضار لك ونافعٌ لغيرك...فاستفد يا إنسان
طبعاً لم أكتب هذه المقالة كي أناقش موضوعاً فلسفيّاً أو أدبيّاً، إنّما أكتب كي يفهم من يهمّه الأمر بأن الوقت ليس مناسباً لطرح مسألة الدكتور سمير جعجع على هذا الموقع، سيّما وأنّ بلدتنا مشغرة هي- في هذه الظروف- بمنأى عن كل هذه القضايا المطروحة، وإنّ ما يهمّ أبناء مشغرة هو العمل على إنماء البلدة وإرساء جو التعايش فيما بينهم، والإتحاد معاً لما هو لخير ومصلحة البلدة. لذلك أتمنّى من الذين يكتبون في هذا الموقع الإبتعاد بقدر الإمكان عن التطرّق إلى مواضيع حسّاسة قد تكون مهمّة للبعض، ومؤذية للبعض الآخر، وذلك حفاظاً على وحدة الصف في مشغرة وليس تقليلاً لدور الدكتور سمير جعجع
في الختام، علينا ألاّ ننسى أنّ هذه الصفحة هي للحوار والتقارب وتبادل للثقافة، لذلك أرجو من كل من يريد الرد على هؤلاء المندسّين -الذين لا يريدون الخير لمشغرة، الذين يهربون من توقيع أسمائهم- ألاّ يدخل في الهرتقات والزواريب الطائفيّة لما يصبّ في مصلحة مشغرة، في نموّها وازدهارها ورقي أبنائها
.جورج فهد إبراهيم
georgeo83@hotmail.com
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27 Apr 2004
.أين الارتياح عند جميع أقطاب المجتمع المشغري لهذا الوفاق والانصهار الوطني
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27 Apr 2004
أين الوفاق والانصهار الوطني. ألا يحق للمسلمين أن يكون لهم مختار في الحارة الفوقا والمسحيين في الحارة التحتا أو الخوف من عدم تأمين التوازن الطائفي عند الاثنين, فتم فرض هؤلاء .أين الارتياح عند جميع أقطاب المجتمع المشغري لهذا الوفاق
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27 Apr 2004
No Deal Behind The wheel, Let The Vote Roll. Here is some names of The
Karameh List which Coming to the public. Vote for the top public worker who is
live in town, by the town independable, for the town,
NOT FOR ANY PARTY NO PRESSURE FROM OUTSIDER .
Mr.Youssef Mohamed Younes, Mr. Jawdat kaissar Ibrahim, Mr.Amer Ali Gazaleh,
Mr.Mahfouz Mahfouz, Dr. Mohammed Youssef Serhal, Dr. Ali Kamel Sharaf, Mr.
Mohammed Kamel El Amar, Mr. Mourice Rizak, Hajj Ali Kalile Zeineh, Hajj Ali
Mohamed Serhal, Mr. Youssef Bejaigy.
To be continued with the other names........
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27 Apr 2004
An ideal president, vice president members, for Machghara.
If two of the conditions are true for you, then you have potency of becoming a
president or any of the above.
But if all of the conditions are true for you, then you are a member of the
above.
You have potency of having scandals, and you area able to deny everything.
You are able to tell naive speeches, knowing that none believes them.
You are able to dance and sing "Ya Amar Machghara" anywhere.
You like to make decisions that are not seconded by others.
What kind of list is that???? I guess we will wait and see.
Machghara Ottawa canada
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27 Apr 2004
S. Karam. Vous vous semblez très jeune selon la manière que vous vous
écrivez toi et Remy. Je peux vous enseigner beaucoup de choses au sujet de
l'amour et de la paix. Apprenez à ignorer ce type. Quand vous écrivez comme lui,
vous vous abaissez à son niveau.
Rima
France
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27 Apr 2004
في تمام الساعة الثالثة من بعد ظهر هذا اليوم جرى لقاء في جامع الحارة التحتا مشغرة وضم جميع الفعاليات السياسية والحزبية والدينية وحشد شعبي وألقى بالمناسبة الشيخ محمد خليل حمادي كلمة شدد فيها على وحدة أهالي مشغرة في سبيل انماء بلدتهم وتم الاعلان عن لائحة الوفاء والانصهار الوطني التى جرى ذكرها سابقا وجرى تعديل على اللائحة باستبدال اسم الدكتور حسن محفوظ مكان السيد محمد العنقوني. وساد جو من الارتياح عند جميع أقطاب المجتمع المشغري لهذا الوفاق
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27 Apr 2004
To VI, I was busy writing my previous post and didn't get the chance to read your latest. I know about the politics and I choose not to get involved in them in any way. Since you live in the US (The place that I WAS born in) you don't have to look back at us "dogs" as you describe. Have a full life over there and enjoy it, i wish you the best. I never met him personally, but I know who he is... If you don't like your people then stop talking, I mean "preaching" your thoughts around here. Say hello to Joseph Charara, whom I never met personally, but know who he is. Maybe I can get your name from him, he still likes us.
R. H.
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27 Apr 2004
Why do you hide? Is it to protect yourself? I weigh only 65kg... And I admit that I'm not really powerful, yet you continue to hide yourself. You say you know me, do you know me personally? Did I ever speak to you? Because nobody I know is this afraid to fight. All the males I ever met are respectable, so obviously, I don't know you.... Then again, you could be female, but then again, all the female Machgharanis that I know are also not afraid to show their faces. So that leaves 2 more species on this Earth that you could be: One is Chicken. The other is Worm. In case you didn't understand what I meant when I said "Worm", you mindless idiot, I just called you: "THE SCUM OF THE EARTH". And speaking of parents, did yours abuse you in any way? Did your father beat you? Did your mother "NOT LOVE YOU". Because honestly, you seem very disturbed. I know that I didn't cause it because you were babbling (it means "talking nonsense") way before I ever wrote to you. So pull your head out of your rear end and go find a shrink (meaning psychiatrist, also means "Head Doctor") to help you with your sickness. Just so you know, I don't blame you for hating whatever it is that you hate, because it obviously wasn't my fault, nor was it anybody else's who posted on this site. I believe that your problems came from what you heard other people say... You need help, and I really would like to help you, but you keep hiding inside some confined space, all alone with your imaginary friend(s). I say imaginary because it doesn't seem to me that you have any real, existing friends.... Between the last sentence and this one, I just wasted a minute (that's how long it tkes me to read a paragraph. How long does it take you?) of my life that I'll never get back. Anyway, you say that you don't like Machghara, are you even from Machghara? If you are, then you must be the village idiot, as every village has one... If you're not, then you're the idiot of whatever village it is that you come from. If you don't want anything to do with MY village, then stop logging on to its exclusive website, go away, far far away, and don't look back. "Run Moron, Ruuuuuuun". But I'd like it if you stayed, and I'd thank you if you did, because then I'd have one more bug to make fun of... Go look for the lyrics of Godsmack's song "Whatever". It's about you... To
Karam, thanks for your help, but I don't think our disgruntled imbecile is able to tolerate another completely perfect LITERATE statement against him. Keep it up, hopefully their head would explode. Back to you VI (Village Idiot) or OVI (Other Village's Idiot), whatever... Go fill up the rest of the season by counting your fingers and toes. Well maybe just you fingers, your toes may take you another six months into the year.. Go count you fingers - the wiggly things that are attached to your hands, also the same wiggly things that write utter crap on the site that represents MY village) - and leave us alone.
R. H.
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27 Apr 2004
Remy, our loyalties to Machghara cannot be blemished by this unidentified
individual.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only your light and the good words we say
can do that on this site. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love that we give and
respect can do that. This unidentified person wants hate to multiply by hate,
he wants violence to multiply by violence, which leads to the path of
destruction.
Remy, you are a peace Builders like your father and many of Machghara loyalists.
You know what Remy, we will tell this person that with Love is the only force
that we have of turning him into a friend.
It is funny, we have flown the air like birds and swum the sea like fishes, but
have yet to learn the simple act of communicating properly with each other. Why
don’t you identify yourself Mr. and bring peace to yourself.
Hassan Hajjar
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27 Apr 2004
سالينا كرم أنا بهنيكي على اسلوبك المسالم والأدب الزايد عن اللزوم واللهجة الغير موتورة .(الله ينجينا يا عمي)ا
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27 Apr 2004
This is to Remy Hajjar and those who side with him especially the last
individual. I am from Machghara and I am twice your age. I Chose not to become
part of Machghara fro many reasons. when you leave your house Remy and live like
a dog in the states you come and tell me Mr. Hajjar about this. I worked for 30
years in Machghara and I left with my family and came to the states. what do
you know. I lost everything I had. you were not even born there. I know your
father personally and how much time did he spend there, but he should tell you
about the corruption that take place there. Go and learn to being honest with
yourself first and then go and elect those officials. This beginning would be
simple. you are telling me that there is respect in your country for people
like us. Go and tell your father to keep inviting Syrian officials to his house
and I noticed in my visit that many people do that. what do you call that
Remy. Fear, intimidation, respect, fear of being harassed by "Zabet Souri" is
this the way you wanna live in Machghara Remy. by all means go and live like a
dog under this umbrella. I can travel anywhere any place in the states. who is
asking you questions. that is what is killing me about your generation. you
people are used to oppression, you are used to this life style so you don't know
anything about liberty and freedom of opinion. you have to kiss butts to get a
job. you have to be associated with a corrupted leader to get a job. Make that
part of your day practice for so long. First and foremost you must be honest
with yourself in order to be honest with anyone else. You cannot attack me. It
hurts you so much If you tell the truth even when it hurts you will. No I was
not attacking his family at all. All what I was saying is Remy should ask his
father and the Hajjar family how election used to be corrupted. I know Mr.
Bassil Hajjar but how come he hasn’t agreed with me on any of these issues. Why
you people are denying this truth. Remy go and ask any of the older generation.
You start to feel good about yourself.
You become more mature.
You develop personal growth.
You build your self--esteem.
You free yourself find inner-peace.
You learn to accept yourself and others like me as the individuals
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27 Apr 2004
"With the lapse of 10 years on his presence in jail" we humbly pray and thank God that Lebanon is a much safer place now than it was when the Criminal was arrested and jailed. We feel much safer to go to church again without the fear of being bombed and maimed to settle scores between war lords and thieves who have been declared by some as heroes. the emigrants will return or not return have nothing to do with the release of a mass murderer from prison or not. Why?? because... No one cares...
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27 Apr 2004
"With the lapse of 10 years on his presence in jail, we humbly pray to God to inspire us a collective course of action to achieve a comprehensive national reconciliation without which there is no hope for us to regain our tranquility and prosperity or for the return of those who have emigrated."
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27 Apr 2004
"No peace can prevail without justice," the Patriarch said. "The cause of Dr. Samir Geagea is for many of the Lebanese the cause of a nation in captivity more than the cause of a citizen in jail."
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27 Apr 2004
Ma chere demoiselle qui parle le Francais comme les oiseaux....
why don't you write to me to my private e-mail please so I know who you are.
You seem just as confused as our unnamed EX- Machgharani, or are you the same
person??? I promise I will not get you institutionalized either.
salinakaram@hotmail.com
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27 Apr 2004
............ The Independent Karameh List ............................
----- En.Youssef Mohammed Younes,(President)
----- Mr.Jawdat kaissar Ibrahim, (Vice President)
----- Dr. Ali Kamel Sharef, (Member)
----- Dr.Mahfouz Mahfouz, (Member)
----- Dr. Mohammed Youssef Serhal,(Member)
----- Dr. Mourise Rizak,(Member)
----- Mr.Amer Ali Gazaleh,(Member)
----- En. Yousseff Begiegy,(Member)
----- Haje Ali Kalile Zaineh,(Member)
----- Haje Ali Mohammed Serhal,(Member)
----- Haje Mohammed Kamel Amare,(Member)
See The LBC News Today For The Meeting With List Will Be Live From Machghara on
Lbc News.
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27 Apr 2004
Sadly, I am not from this most beautiful town called Machghara; However, I
have been there many times and have very dear Machgharian friends (and distant
family members!).
The recent inter-exchanges between Remy Hajjar and, the yet unidentified, other
party shows, if anything, the former's constructive attachment to his roots and
the latter's crave for any self-serving excuse to sever such a belonging.
The said unidentified other party is offering Remy some lessons in politics;
Remy, trust me, you can do very well without being so lectured by this
particular individual. Incoherent and unlinked references to women in politics
(both local and central), the Syrian political system, the various religious
issues, etc., etc. indicate, if anything, a wholly confused intellectual
processes.
Interestingly, the particular reference to "You people should understand taht
teh [sic] Lebanese culture is a culture of violence ..." indicates that this
unidentified other party is neither from Machghara nor, indeed, from any other
part of Lebanon (his views being expressed as against all "Lebanese", not just
Machghara).
On my part, I have, as I said, been to Machghara many times (with much joy) and
intend continuing to do so. It is a beautiful place and its inhabitants (from
all sects and walks of life) are a caring, generous and hospitable lot - I can
vouch for that anytime.
The lesson to be learnt from the said inter-exchanges between Remy and the
unidentified other party is that Remy (the new generation) has learnt to
identify and acknowledge the so many positive elements of his roots while the
unidentified other party (obviously, an older generation) has elected to remain
immersed in his historical bitterness (and, ironically, contrive to condemn the
same).
Remy, in my humble view you do have the refreshing attitude to make the
requisite difference (no matter how much or little) and with sons like you,
Machghara will so soon be the place that you and good young men like you can be
proud of and enjoy belonging to.
As ever,
Bader S Abu-Ghosh
bader@getgroup.com
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27 Apr 2004
Salina ce n'est pas de cette manière qu'on s'adresse au Patriarche, (ce n'est
pas sympat de donner des remarques pour une demoiselle ou une dame) si tu n'est
pas d'accord avec le Patriarche ou Samir Geagea c'est ton droit, mais tu
t'adresse aux personnes avec respect.
N.B. Samir Geagea a términé sa septième année en medecine mais il a préféré la
résistance pour que le Liban ne change pas de nom et devient la palestine.
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27 Apr 2004
أين الوفاق والانصهار الوطني. ألا يحق للمسلمين أين يكون لهم مختار في الحارة الفوقا والمسحيين في الحارة التحتا أو الخوف من عدم تأمين التوازن الطائفي عند الاثنين, فتم فرض هؤلاء
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27 Apr 2004
Salina Karam, nous respectons vos idées, mais je crois qu'il faut que tu ait un peut courtoisie
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27 Apr 2004
Youssef Mohamed Younes, Jawdat kaissar Ibrahim, Amer Ali Gazaleh, Mahfouz Mahfouz, Dr. Mohammed Youssef Serhal
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26 Apr 2004
Click on this link to view the
latest about the 2004 Municipality elections.
لائحة الوفاء والإنصهار
الوطني
Scanned and e-mailed to webmaster by Ali Salim Merhi, Machghara.
We will keep you updated in case we receive other lists.
Webmaster.
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26 Apr 2004
Dear Demented, Disgruntled EX-Machgharani.
I think I know who you are.
You state that you went back to Machghara once and you did not like what you saw. Well that is fair. So god bless you wherever you are and help you overcome your problems. Whatever your problems are, I would like to suggest some therapy through a professional.
Attacking Remy Hajjar or his parents will only increase your frustration.
There is a 12 step program that we have perfected for patients like yourself and it has been proven that is very effective.
* The first step is you should get more 2 hours of sleep at night.
* Then you MUST and I mean MUST take your prescribed medications on time, all 18 orange pills and the other 6 white ones. Take them with food and drink lots of water.
* Stop sniffing glue and paint, they are not good for you.
* Then, you must cut down on the Net, especially a web site called machghara.com.
* The voices that you hear in your head… that is not God nor the devil speaking to you, it is the side effect of being the town idiot for so long, that no one talks to you now you hear voices.
* I suggest you go back to electrical shock therapy twice a week. If it does not work try 4 times a week. It worked on “Ali Hond.....” so it should work on you.
*
Please don’t be so paranoid about revealing your name,… I know…. I know…. You don’t want to go back to the institution. The last trip in a straight jacket hurt your stubby little arms and your feelings too. I promise that this time we will not take you away.
* Oh.. the flashing red lights outside your window… well don’t worry about them, there is an old lady in your building who needs medical attention, they are not here to take you away…
* As for your dyslexia, well try standing on your head and type, you will get it right. “The tehe tehe the “ Keep on practicing.
* As for the other person inquiring about the Lebanese forces and Machghara. Well: “Patriarch Nasrallah Sfeir has declared Lebanese Forces commander Samir Geagea's imprisonment as "the cause of an entire nation in captivity." Well you see my friend. The Patriarch used to nail
.............. So he had a b..... child and she named him Samir. He never went to medical school but we call him “Al Hakim” He killed many people and ordered the killing of the Sham3oun family” Now he is serving a few life sentences in prison because our government was too cowardly to execute him. Every now and then someone will demand his release. To tell you the truth, I would love to see him released back on the street so his fate will be the same as his EX-partner in crime “Mr. Elie Hobeika”. So basically the Lebanese government is doing the LF and Gea3gea3 a favor by keep him protected and imprisoned.
* To the previous question… what does it have to do with Machghara? … Nothing at all. Just another id..... who is not taking his medication and hallucinating again.
Thank you, S. Karam salinakaram@hotmail.com
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26 Apr 2004
VOTE FOR YOUSSEF YOUNES AND HIS LIST. If you vote for Youssef Younes and his list, I am sure you will be glad that you did!
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26 Apr 2004
تحية من جديد للكل. اتمنى من اللذين يمعنون كلامي ويأخذونه بنية سيئة لسؤالي عن (السيد جعجع والقواتيون وعن الأشياء الجيدة التي قدموها للبنان ومشغرة) أن يجيبوا على سؤالي لاني بصراحة حابب أعرف واذا ما في جواب بتمنى ما حدا يتعصب بالرد. وشكرا
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26 Apr 2004
do not vote. do not vote. do not vote. do not vote. do not vote. do not vote. do not vote. do not vote. do not vote. do not vote. we still have Syrian presence in Machghara. the only thing we need is hizballah. i think this enough
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26 Apr 2004
Geremy hejjar. I think you are naïve and programmed, but it is not your fault. you see I think your parents should spend more time with you to educate you. Were you in Machghara when all this stuff was happening. Get a life Go protect your holy traditions, by running after fake politics. go after those who protected us. You see I am not a Christian nor a Muslim person. And I don’t care about a religion. I believe in fair system in life. This is something we don’t have. I went back to Machghara once and I will never never never go back there again.
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26 Apr 2004
ahel machghara bi 7e2elloun y3abro 3an ra2youn w yintekhbou baladiyetoun min doun ma yetdakhalo kil li ma biridou l khayr la machghara wil baddoun y2asmouna w y3al2ouna ma3 ba3edna ni7na khli2na bi machghara ta nkoun 3aychin ma3 ba3edna w ndal ma3 ba3edna w ma nkhalle 7ada yfare2na.
Vote to Jawdat Ibrahim & Youssef Younes list
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26 Apr 2004
Stop making me write back to your id..... comments. I really have no time for a quarrel (it means fight) right now.
Do the world a favor and jump off your mountain of lies.
R. Hajjar
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26 Apr 2004
Vote to MR JAWDAT IBRAHIM & YOUSSEF YOUNES
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26 Apr 2004
Vote to MR JAWDAT IBRAHIM & YOUSSEF YOUNES
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26 Apr 2004
I do know who u are Remy Hajjar. I hope you learn English yourself. go learn more about what is going on before you answer. if I have a broken English maybe you are afraid of the truth. My English should not be a problem for you. tell me why there are no women. I can teach you politics kid. did you know that in your local town that you love so much why, why there are no In local politics, only 0 percent of municipal council members are women. That figure has stayed stagnant since the country’s pre-war days, according to a report by Lebanese University law professor Marguerite Helou which ran in the December issue of Al-Raida, the publication of the Institute for Women’s Studies in the Arab World. To add insult to injury Remy Hajjar unlike some other Arab countries including Syria Lebanon has never had a female minister maybe now. Hafez Assad made appointing women a priority under his regime starting in 1976 although most continue to be placed in “softer” posts, such a culture like your need higher education. get a life. I don't know what you know about politics go ask you father maybe maybe he knows about the dirty politics in your Machghara. Get a life
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26 Apr 2004
I am astonished at some of the messages
I have been reading on this site, for the longest time I always thought the only
way to get rid of (Ignorance) is by (Education) but the more I read the more I
recognize we need to reform our selves and our thinking.
To put it mildly we need to reform our thinking and our mentalities if we are to
live together in peace in harmony.
It is about time to open our minds and hearts to see how we can co-exist in this
small world of ours without having such hateful feelings toward each other.
I appeal to all of you the people of Machghara, to reexamine your stands. We
must come to an understanding that if we do not put our hands together and work
toward a town that might be an example for others to follow.
The recipe for disaster is, Muslims against Christians, Muslims against Muslims,
Christians against Christians. This is what the west has banked on for the past.
If this situation is not resolved or at least if we do not try to resolve it, we
would have past on a very messy situation to our offspring’s to deal with.
The son of Machghara.
Ibrahim Hohsen Hammoud.
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26 Apr 2004
To the id..... who wrote the previous post.
Get out of your little cave and look around, you ignorant moron. What race and
ethnic differences are there in Lebanon? Everyone you look at is just as
Lebanese as you are, especially the people of Machghara. I dare you to name me
three different nationalities found in the whole of Lebanon, rather than just
Machghara, that are anything other than Arab.
As for your opinions of the government, keep them to yourself, you say you want
freedom of thought while you tell us what to think. Hypocrite retard...
It is this kind of idiocy that makes me want to forget about Lebanon all
together. And still I come back to try to correct your corrupt little mind.
As for your dyslexia (the inability to spell, read or write). Yes you are
dyslexic in case your forgot (TEH TEH TEH TEH). It is spelled T-H-E with the
T in THE beginning, followed by THE H then THE E.
You should rely on something other than online chatting to teach you PROPER
English.
And in conclusion, at least I have the internal fortitude to sign my name at the
end of this post, you coward. I suggest you sign your name in your next post,
otherwise I wouldn't know who I'll be laughing at, and I wouldn't know who the
biggest FAKE is on Earth.
Right now my imagery of you is of this short, skinny little WUSS (it means
coward you id....) sitting at home and being consumed by petty, worthless and
meaningless thoughts while idolizing BRUNO, wishing you can be just like him in
every which way, (here's your Arabic moment) YAY!
So tell me your name and prove that you are something other than *WAHT* I just
described in the above statement, you spineless, yellow little .....
Remy Hajjar
PS: To the "webmaster". Keep this guy... this kid's post on the site so that it
could remind him of how much of a coward he really is.
Thank you all very much for your time.
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26 Apr 2004
You people should understand taht teh Lebanese culture is a culture of violence, we don't believe in peace. Ethnic, religious and racial intolerance, and nationalism are among the principal sources of our conflict in Machghara. there is no democracies in any of those nations in teh middle east.
Oh yes you will find taht in Machghara elections?.
You will never have peace because religions have been a cause of war. if you want to arrive at taht truth simply threw the religion behind you, you will gain power . look at the
United States and France and those powerful countries. why??? the freedom of expression, and the freedom of choice.
When you leave your homeland, you are stripped of every human dignity. do not vote. this is a joke people. ask yourself, who are you voting for. your locals have no power and will
not listen to you. Voting is the most important thing to make your voice heard but not in Machghara.
Can someone translate this for me in Arabic so the people in Machghara understand this.
Wake up, we don't have government of the people, by the people, for the people. we have a government for the pockets. corruption !@!!!
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26 Apr 2004
Patriarch Nasrallah Sfeir has declared Lebanese Forces commander Samir Geagea's imprisonment as "the cause of an entire nation in captivity." The head of the Maronite Church made the declaration in the course of a Sunday sermon delivered at a mass he held in the chapel of his Bkirki seat for Geagea, who began his 11th year in solitary confinement in the defense ministry jail in Yarze.
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26 Apr 2004
عشرة اعوام مضت, و كاءنك دخلت في البارحة. عشرة اعوام و انت صامد, ثابت على المبادئ التي استشهد من اجلها عشرة الاف شهيد, لا تبدل مواقفك حتى على حساب حريتك, عائلتك و اهلك. فتحية حارة لك ايها القائد ايها المارد المتمرد. انت الذي حول سجنه الى اعظم رمز للحرية في لبنان
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26 Apr 2004
للذي يساءل عن العلاقة بين جعجع و مشغرة, اقول ان الجواب بسيط جدا" فهو كالعلاقة بين اي قائد او رئيس حزب و محازبيه في اي منطقة من الاراضي اللبنانية. فما علاقة جبران عريجي بمشغرة مثلا" او نصرالله؟ هل هو العدد؟ من اجرى استفتاء؟ ام انك تستخف بعدد القواتيين في مشغرة؟
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26 Apr 2004
Pour tous ceux qui désirent la signature, êtes vous sérieux????? Pouvez-vous
garantir la sécurité de ces personnes?? Si les services secretes décident
d'arreter ces personnes que pouvez-vous faire?
Mes amis, nous vivons au Liban, et au Liban la liberté de l'opinion n'est pas
respectée. Si moi, à Machghara, avoue que je suis des FL, je vous assure que je
serais arrete immédiatement, comme le cas de Zahleh et tout le Békaa car c'est
une région sous le controle directe des Syriens.
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26 Apr 2004
What is the story with you people of Machghara!!! is every one entering
lately ashamed of posting his or her name??? with all due respect to you and
your views, it is so easy to throw words and statements left and right and
create chaos and to me this is a complete act of coward ness, simply because if
you really and truly believe in what you want to say go ahead say it proudly
without hiding, I am saying this to all who are writing without signature
specially the ones who are writing about the leader of Lebanese forces, even
though some one wrote and asked about the relation ship between Jaaja and
Machghara which is a very legitimate question!!! still not appreciated by me
because he is afraid or ashamed to put his/her name.
As every one is entitled to state his or her views, we ask from all of you to
keep the ethical language and gestures the bases of our noble debate.
And to the person inviting me to put my views, you may be the closest to me but
I will not respond to your request until you tell me who you are???.
Love to all
Bassil Hajjar
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26 Apr 2004
Vote For Mr. Youssef Mohamed Younes List.
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26 Apr 2004
Please Place Your Comments For The Election With All Our Respect To Each Person Had Believed In His Country & Town, We Should Give Our Time And Vote For The Right Person Who will Work Hard, Honest, and with Clean Hands. who has the program to build the town because our town needs lots.........lots ........lots of work. Please talk about election
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26 Apr 2004
تحية الى جميع الفرقاء آملين ان تكونوا فريق واحد انشاءالله. اننا نحترم آراء الجميع (مع أو ضد) ولكن نرجوا ان تعلمونا عن حسنات السيد جعجع والقواتيون بالنسبة الى لبنان او مشغرة حتى نتفق على شيء جيد ان وجد.وشكرا
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26 Apr 2004
كلمة ستريدا جعجع يوم الاحد25 نيسان في بكركي, تلتها بعد الذبيحة الالهية التي تراءسها البطريرك الماروني على نية القائد سمير جعجع عشر سنين مرت والحكيم في معتقله. عشرة أعوام مرت، وتوالت الازمات ولم تجد أزمة واحدة حلا لها، بل زادت تفاقما. الوطن يفتش عن ذاته والمواطن عن لقمة عيشه ومستقبله، والسلطة غارقة في صراع مع السلطة. الوزراء يتباهون في معارضة حكومتهم والنواب يعارضون الحكومة ويمنحونها الثقة ويقرون القوانين وعكسها بسحر ساحر. الفضائح تتوالى من النفط الى الخليوي الى الكهرباء الى الكسارات الى النفايات. ينام المواطن على أخبار فضيحة ليستيقظ على أخبار فضيحة جديدة، فلا ثواب ولا حساب ولا عقاب، وكيف السبيل الى الحساب والمواطن لا سبيل له في اختيار مسؤوليه؟ والقضاء تعطله التدخلات والعدالة الانتقائية حلت مكان العدل اساس الملك. شباب مهاجر عن وطنه، ومهجر في وطنه ملاحق لانه يطالب بسيادة وطنه ولا حساب وحريته، وصفوف الشباب ليست لتتسابق على بناء الغد بل على ابواب السفارات هربا من المستقبل، فأي وطن يبنى ويقوم بدون أبنائه وشبابه؟ أسقطوا الوفاق الوطني ليسقطوا التوازن. فالقدرة على المحاسبة تسهل السيطرة على مقدرات الوطن. ظنوا ان الاضطهاد يجعلنا نكفر بالوطن فزدنا تعلقا به. ظنوا ان الترهيب والترغيب يضعفان العزائم فأضحينا اكثر ايمانا بقضيتنا وتشبثنا بمبادئنا. ظنوا ان حل القوات اللبنانية يضعف الانتماء فزاد التيار زخما وقوة ووحدة. في خضم كل ذلك يسطع موقفكم الوطني الداعي الى استعادة الوطن من تجار الهيكل والى السيادة والاستقلال والقرار الحر، وتأكيد العيش المشترك وعلى وحدة اللبنانيين في مواجهة الازمات. وتبقى القوات ملتزمة هذه المواقف. رهانها في وجه العواصف على وعي اللبنانيين ومصالحتهم ومواجهتها معا، أمينة على المبادئ التي اعتقل من أجلها سمير جعجع، ساعية الى وحدة الصف والموقف في المعارضة معارضتها كالشمس في وضح النهار لا تمالق ولا تهادن، قوتها قوة تغيير واصلاح ومحاسبة بالوسائل الديموقراطية تتوقف عند كل استحقاق لتسائل وتحاسب. كما القيامة انتصار للحق على الباطل سيتحرر الحكيم من معتقله، وتطلق المصالحة الوطنية من سجنها ويعود لبنان وطن الحرية والاحرار وطنا لكل أبنائه
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26 Apr 2004
Dear Bassil Hajjar Write what you like and what you believe in.
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26 Apr 2004
May 9,2004. It will Be Historical Moment in The History Of Machghara. the Democracy will show, Who has program for this town.
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26 Apr 2004
No Deal Behind The wheel, Let The Vote Roll
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26 Apr 2004
Vote for the Best list leaded by Youssef Younes
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26 Apr 2004
EN. Youssef Younes & Jowdett Ibrahim, All Machghara Voters Behined You
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26 Apr 2004
Youssef Mohamed Younes, Jawdat kaissar Ibrahim, Amer Ali Gazaleh, Mahfouz Mahfouz, Dr. Mohammed Youssef Serhal
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26 Apr 2004
Go Independent Educational List, All of Us Behind you. Say yes for Youssef Younes and Jawdat Ibrahim and their list
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26 Apr 2004
Dear Machgarani. Our Municipality Elections Start Today. The Top Educated Engeneering, and the best Independent Doctors with clean hand for all 12 members of the (Educational List) who work very hard to this town, to bring this town from where all the political parties put us, and to keep our town on its feet. Today they place their names as candidates to our municipality Council. here is the best team our town came with all of them hard working for their town, all of them live in the town NOT IN BERUT we need them to feel the problems every minute of our time. I called on BASSIM HAJJAR to tell all of you how are these hidden soldiers. our town need lots of work to be done we do not need council live in Beirut do not feel what Machghara needs. Machghara needs to open its Leather Manufacturies for our workers to come back to life and these Companies need leather Market to sales their products, Machghara needs to put stop to the theft of its money, Machghara needs to rebuild its Roads and its water lines, Machghara need to bring all of its sons and daughters back to meet where their parents grow. we know what Machghara needs : 1- Stop forcing on us what outsiders believe to each machgharani live in this town, I ask you to vote with your Knowledge and your Belief to the person who work for your town and you see them every day in your town not outside.
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26 Apr 2004
الرّجاء من أبناء مشغرة الكرام الإلتفات إلى موضوع إنتخابات البلديّة مع إحترامي لكافّة المواضيع الأخرى
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25 Apr 2004
يا أخي ليش انت هيك عم تبح قلبك أذا القاضي راضي انت شو بدك بهالشغلة الزلمي قتل مسيحيين والمسيحيين مبسوطين. خليه يطلع من الحبس شو فارقة معك انت. يعني البطرك قدامه جعجع السفاح او عون ال..... انت محله مين بتختار؟ انت بحكم المواطنية اللبنانية وشريك لهم بدك تتقبلهن على علاتن ومين ما حكمهن يحكمهن وعلى رأي المثل اللي بيتجوز امي بقللو عمي ههههههههه. ايه ولدينتي
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25 Apr 2004
سمير جعجع دخل السجن بحكم قضائي بعد تفجير كنيسة سيدة النجاة ومن التحقيقات تبيين ان القوات وعلى رأسها سمير جعجع مسؤولة عن جريمة اغتيال داني وشمعون وعائلته كذلك تبيين انه مسؤول عن محاولة اغتيال الزايك التي ذهب ضحيتها ثلاثة عشر مواطنا وكذلك اغتيال رشيد كرامي والخ الخ الخ. إن كانت بكركي ليست مهتمة بأرواح ضحايا جعجع وعلى الخصوص ضحايا كنيسة سيدة النجاة ، فإن القضاء اللبناني معني بمحاكمة كل مجرم ومعني بأخذ الحق العام، لذلك ليس للسياسة دخل بالموضوع الا من باب التدخل للإفراج عنه بمعنى إعطائه عفوا خاصا وبالتالي هو ليس سجينا سياسيا بل جزائيا
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25 Apr 2004
كيف تتوقع مثل هذا القرار من لجنة حقوق الانسان و رئيسها ينتمي الى حزب يعرف بتبعيته العمياء للدولة و بالتالي الى سوريا, فاءيها الرفيق ان مثل هذا القرار صعب المنال. فسمير جعجع دخل السجن بقرار سياسي و سيخرج بقرار سياسي
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25 Apr 2004
بعد ان انهت لجنة حقوق الانسان في البرلمان البناني زياراتها لكل السجون على الاراضي البنانية, يبدو انها تناست سجن وزارة الدفاع لاسباب نعرفها جميعا, او ربما وزارة الدفاع ليست ضمن الاراضي البنانية. ناءمل ان تصحح هذه الجنة موقفها و تتخذ القرار بزيارة السجين السياسي سمير جعجع, خلال اجتماعها الاسبوع القادم
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25 Apr 2004
NICE VOTING
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25 Apr 2004
FREE DR. GEAGEA ............... now
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25 Apr 2004
Would some one please tell us what is the relation between the leader of the Lebanese forces and our Town and in this site in particular? Name us one good thing he did for Machghara that you people are excited about talking about him and his liberation??? signed by 99.9% of Machghara People.
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25 Apr 2004
لمناسبة مرور عشرة اعوام على اعتقال القائد سمير جعجع في سجن وزارة الدفاع, اقامة القوات البنانية في كندا وامريكا, الذبيحة الالهية على نية اطلاق سراح القائد من سجنه السياسي, و تراءس الذبيحة ممثل البطريرك الماروني الذي اكد على ضرورة اطلاق جعجع. وفي النهاية كانت كلمة القوات حيث اكد الحاضرون ولائهم للقائد
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25 Apr 2004
I cannot disagree with Nasser and the responsible people of this site. I
take pride when I write on this site, I take pride in including my respected
friends, from the Hajjar, El-Hajj and Charara and all those who are taking the
time to write their entries.
You see my friend, people who are illogical,
unreasonable, and self-centered, we will love them anyway.
We know that the
good we do today will be forgotten tomorrow, we will do good anyway.
We know
that honesty and frankness make us vulnerable to attacks, but we believe to
remain honest and frank in our ideas anyway.
We know that the biggest person
with the biggest ideas can be shot down by the smallest mind, we will continue
to think big anyway.
We know what you spend years building may be destroyed
overnight, we will continue to build anyway.
We know that some people really
need help in life like our friend "negative", but may attack us if we do help
them. We will help them anyway.
Hassan Hajjar
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25 Apr 2004
Dear Web Master
As you can see this website has started going towards the threats to other
people and there is a war going on this website. To show our dirty laundry to
the other towns. Instead of us showing our good faith and the appreciation for
the people who lost their blood and their lives, to free our town from the
Zionist and the (coo-wate) they're the traitors of their country. From this
point of view we are asking you to stop this balogne on this website and cut all
of the entries without signatures, who accused the people of being ghosts when
he is the ghosts for not signing his name.
-The man who loves his town the most
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25 Apr 2004
نتمنى على راعي هدا الموقع ان يتدخل ويحدف كل ما هو مشين لنا ولبلدتنا الجميلة وشكرا
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25 Apr 2004
نقول لقائد تفجير الكنائس وتهجير المسيحيين أنك ستتعفن بالسجن الى الأبد ولعنة الأطفال والنساء الذين قتلتهم في كنيسة سيدة النجاة ستلاحقك حتى تحترق بنار جهنم
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24 Apr 2004
تحية حارة الى القواتيين في هذه البلدة الجميلة, وفي البقاع الغربي المقاوم وخاصة الى الرفاق في زحلة اللذين يتحملون التهديد المباشر من قبل المخابرات السورية, ويعتقلون ويضربون تارة من قبل المخابرات اللبنانية وتارة من قبل الاشباح كما حصل ليلة السبت الاحد في 18 نيسان
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24 Apr 2004
القوات باقية هيّ هيّ (سمير جعجع).ا
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24 Apr 2004
عشرة اعوام مضت ايها القائد........ فنحن في انتظارك لتقودنا الى لبنان حرّ وبعيد عن الهمجية السورية (والاسرائيلية لكي لا يغضب شركائنا في الوطن).ا
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24 Apr 2004
بعد مرور عشرة سنوات على اعتقال قائد القوات اللبنانية في ظروف غير انسانية وغير لائقة ببلد يدعي الحرية واحترام حقوق الانسان ندعو هذه الدولة ال.... ان تطلق السجين السياسي الاول في لبنان وان تكف عن ملاحقة القواتيين وزجهم في السجون.ا
ونستغل هذه الفرصة لنوجه تحية لهذا المارد المتمرد الذي واجه السجن وفضله على المقاعد الوزارية التي يزحف شاغروها نحو
أسيادهم في سورية للثبات فيها, في حين ان هذا القائد رفضها وفضل الثبات على المبادئ التي استشهد في سبيلها اكثر من عشرة الاف شهيد. ا
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24 Apr 2004
عن السفير 24 نيسان
2004
القومي يكرّم الفنان الراحل زكي ناصيف في الأونيسكو
كرّمت عمدة الثقافة والفنون الجميلة في الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي وعائلة زكي ناصيف الفنان الراحل في احتفال أقيم في قصر الاونيسكو لمناسبة مرور اربعين يوما على وفاته، برعاية رئيس الجمهورية اميل لحود ممثلا بوزير الاعلام ميشال سماحة، وبالتعاون مع وزارة الاعلام وجمعية المؤلفين والملحنين وناشري الموسيقى وفرقة موسيقى قوى الامن الداخلي.
وحضر الحفل النائب ناصر قنديل ممثلا رئيس مجلس النواب نبيه بري، وزير الثقافة غازي العريضي ممثلا رئيس مجلس الوزراء رفيق الحريري، وزير الثقافة السوري د. محمود السيد، وزير العمل اسعد حردان، الامين العام للمجلس الاعلى السوري اللبناني نصري خوري، والنواب: روبير غانم، سامي الخطيب، ومروان فارس، نقيب الصحافة محمد البعلبكي، رئيس الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي جبران عريجي، نائب رئيس الحزب محمود عبد الخالق، وحشد من الشخصيات السياسية والفنية والاجتماعية وعائلة الفقيد.ا
كلمة تقديم للفنانة ورد الخال. وقال سماحة: <<إن غاب قمر مشغرة، لكن صوت المجوز ما زال يدعو الرعاة لليقظة فوق تلالنا، وما زالت العونة التي طالما تغنى بها ترد السلام على المعرفة للجيران الذين انتظروا طويلا رغيفهم وحدل سطوحهم>>.ا
ورأى العريضي <<ان زكي ناصيف مثال المبدع الملتزم>>. وقال: <<انتمى الى وطن وآمن بقضية رافقاه في كل اعماله وابداعاته دون ان يسجل عليه تعصب او فئوية، فاستمر طيلة حياته ينتج ويعطي ويبدع على اساس الثوابت والقناعات ذاتها، متطورا حتى ارتقى اعلى درجات التلحين والفن والغناء>>.ا
والقى وزير الثقافة السوري كلمة شكر فيها منظمي الحفل، وقال لقد <<غنّى القيم الايجابية البناءة التي تنهض بالمجتمع من تعلق بالارض، وحفاظ على الهوية والذاتية الثقافية، والاصالة، وكان معتزاً بانتمائه الى تراث امته وحضارتها الضاربة الجذور في اعماق التاريخ>>.ا
وتحدث الموسيقار توفيق الباشا باسم اصدقاء زكي ناصيف، ووجّه رسالة الى الفقيد استعرض فيها المحطات التي جمعتهما سوياً منذ بداية الخمسينات.ا
وألقى رئيس جمعية المؤلفين والملحنين وناشري الموسيقى الياس ناصر كلمة ضمنها مزايا الراحل.ا
وتوجّه عريجي بكلمتة الى الراحل الكبير فقال: <<اقتنعت بأن الابداع هو قمة الالتزام، فحملت قضيتك بطريقتك، بكلماتك والحانك، واضفت الى خزانتنا ما نفاخر به الامم، فكل اغنية لك نشيد وطني جديد، وكل لقاء حول ابداعك مهرجان للارض والحب والامل والانتصار>>.ا
وتخلل الحفل عرض لمقتطفات من فيلم وثائقي عن الراحل من انتاج وزارة الثقافة اللبنانية، كما تضمن فواصل موسيقية لالحان واغانٍ للراحل أدّتها فرقة موسيقى قوى الامن الداخلي والفنانة لور الخليل.ا
ومنح عريجي باسم الحزب الراحل الكبير وسام العطاء والابداع الذي تسلّمته ابنة شقيقه دلال ناصيف، ووجّهت تحية إكبار الى روح المرحوم فريد ابو خير الذي حفظ تراث زكي ناصيف
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24 Apr 2004
why are you even addressing him with the title MR.? He or She or "IT" are irrelevent since most of "its" comments are mumbo jumbo and dont make any sense. The poor thing probably has no friends because of its negativity. let "it" say what "it" wishes since no one will listen to "it" except thru this site. Wow "it" must really have been denied as a child growing up probably noone liked "it" Sorry you were so hurt but get over it cause with your attitude you will never be liked, or accepted . dont cry "IT" someday maybe you will have a friend to talk to and let out the anger that is bottled inside of you but I guess until then this web site will be your therapy, because you must really be mentally ill to keep going on like this. If you had any guts you would identify yourself but your a coward so what you say is worthless. As for the web master to monitor this site i think he is doing a good job at it already.
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24 Apr 2004
So far I don’t agree with anything (whom you called) Mr. Negative said.
But I believe that he has the right to express his opinion.
I grew up in times when your opinion could cost you your job at best and your
life at worse and land in jail most of the time.
This person is genuinely hurt and upset.
My friend, the past made you a bitter person. Look at the future, and have faith
in the new generation. There is good and bad in each and every one of us,
individuals or Ahzab . Embrace the good my friend, "in a village composed of
farmers, people working in tanneries, nuns, priests, and the occasional
businessman", as they are our assets not our problem.
Chawki Gazal
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23 Apr 2004
لقد كان قرارنا منذ اللحظة الأولى لإنشاء هذا الموقع أن نلتزم الحياد وفي هذه الصّفحة بالذات. لدينا القناعة بأن الثبات على هذا الموقف حاجة ضرورية لاستمرار الحوار والتّواصل بين أبناء مشغرة. لسنا بصدد
لعب دور الحَكَم وتقييم آراء الآخرين بحيث نحدّد ما هو سلبي وما هو إيجابي أو ما هو جيّد وما هو سيّئ. هذه الصّفحة هي بمثابة إختبار لنا جميعاً, إختبار لمقدرتنا على تقبل الآخر. أوَليس هكذا يكون الحوار؟ أوليس هذا ما تحتاجه مشغرة؟
ناصر الحاج
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23 Apr 2004
Someone would think that monitoring this web site is an important part of any WebMaster's job. Mr. El-Hajj I think and every WebMaster should feel obligated to publish high quality statements, not like this garbage Mr. negative attacking Charara and Hajjar and El-Hajj. I don’t see the Hajjars, charara, or anyone responsible for this site responding to Mr. negative comments. When you choose to remain silent, this gives people like Mr. negative the opportunity to attack anyone on this site.
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23 Apr 2004
Mr. Negative please come out of the darkness and identify your self may be you are our great leader and not knowing it, please let us learn more about you, you could be the ONE Machghara is been waiting for all these years!!!
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23 Apr 2004
You people of Machghara are so naïve. Look to yourselves my friends for
definition and direction, and not for Al- Ahazab.
People cannot operate with honesty as long as you have people influencing others
using political means through their own political parties. As I said before, we
left this village Muslims and Christians wanting to seek better life. For those
who are still in Machghara and are reading this message, we are being treated
like animals, whether we are in the united states, Canada, France, anywhere in
this world. Why???? Because of who we are. This is the outcome of our people.
Our leaders that led our country, leaders tat we followed for years, we followed
people who had money, and people were bought through elections, all this is not
enough my friends? That is ok . continue to abandon your souls and ride your
horses thinking this is what we deserve and this is is not our fault. You need
to discover that your water is not dirty, but you are thirsty for sense of
direction. There are some people out there who want you to stay blind.
What happened to all those people who wrote things like Mr. Charara, Bassil
Hajjar, and Hassan Hajjar, and Mr. El-Hajj himself and many others. I would
like to hear from any of those people . you are calling me Mr. Negative. grow
up people and stop looking at your great leaders with tears in your eyes. That
is what people in totalitarian countries do. I will challenge anyone from
Machghara to write me or to have about what happened in Machghara. go find out
what is happening to the society Machghara in Canada and united states. Come on
please. Make an important start in your life and start looking for your soul.
I am Mr. negative. but at least I am honest with myself
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22 Apr 2004
في ذكرى أربعين الموسيقار الراحل زكي ناصيف, نصري الصّايغ يتلو مقطوعات من سيرته:
هنا، في هذه الكنيسة، سمعته يعلق المسيح على خشبة
أيّ حزن يتألق إلى مصاف الجلجلة؟
See Zaki Nassif's page
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22 Apr 2004
في ذكرى أربعين الموسيقار الكبير زكي ناصيف، تتشرف عمدة الثقافة والفنون الجميلة في الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي وعائلة الفنان الراحل بدعوتكم إلى حضور حفل تكريمي بالتعاون مع:
ـ وزارة الثقافة اللبنانية.
ـ وزارة الاعلام اللبنانية.
ـ جمعية المؤلفين والملحنين وناشري الموسيقى.
ـ فرقة موسيقى قوى الأمن الداخلي.
ـ الزمان: الخميس الواقع في 22 نيسان 2004 الساعة السابعة والنصف مساء.
ـ المكان: قصر الأونيسكو ـ القاعة الرئيسية.
البرنامج:
ـ النشيد الوطني اللبناني. النشيد السوري القومي الاجتماعي ( توزيع الفنان زكي ناصيف ).
ـ كلمة الدكتور محمود السيّد وزير الثقافة في الجمهورية العربية السورية.
ـ كلمة الأستاذ غازي العريضي وزير الثقافة في الجمهورية اللبنانية.
ـ كلمة الأستاذ ميشال سماحة وزير الاعلام في الجمهورية اللبنانية.
ـ كلمة أصدقاء زكي ناصيف، للموسيقار توفيق الباشا.
ـ كلمة رئيس جمعية المؤلفين والملحنين وناشري الموسيقى. الأستاذ الياس ناصر.
ـ كلمة الأمين جبران عريجي رئيس الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي.
ـ يمنح الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي الموسيقار الراحل وسام العطاء والابداع.
ـ يتخلل البرنامج عرض لمقتطفات من فيلم عن الفنان الراحل من إنتاج وزارة الثقافة اللبنانية، وموسيقى للفنان على وقع أنغام فرقة موسيقى قوى الأمن الداخلي بقيادة العقيد إيليّا فرنسيس.
مدة الاحتفال: 90 دقيقة.
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22 Apr 2004
What are you talking about, Mr. "Negative"? Candidates for what? what about the Mickey Mouse level? Do you enjoy insulting people? Please be kind and explain.
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22 Apr 2004
The potential candidates for Machghara should be Actors and actresses since
they might make good politicians due to their ability to manipulate people and
the press and to lie to them. After all, it is their job to act and lie, which
sounds a lot like the job description of a politician, if you ask me. What you
think?
You see you can’t do much with a village composed of farmers, people working in
tanneries, nuns, and priest. and the occasional businessman. That what I think
the problem is.
You know we don’t have leaders in this town, because people cannot develop
their ideas beyond a Mickey Mouse level.
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